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    mystery wigglers

    So I have now pulled out 4 tiny wigglers from my DT. I have no idea what they are. I can't believe my corys have already spawned and hatched and from what I've heard otos don't breed in captivity. Thats all I have in my tank at the moment. Besides cherry shrimp.

    Do shrimp look like wigglers at their very early stages? Thats all I can think of. At first I thought I might have got some eggs on my plants I bought, but its been too long since I got a shipment and these wigglers are too young.

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    I"m pretty sure shrimp look just like shrimp when they are born just transparent from what I've looked up.

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    got any pics?
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    They're waaaay too small to take pictures of now.
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    how big are they?, if it's like 2-3mm it could be parasites, I have had little brown parasites that I have found in my substrate or in the filter, a couple of times, think they might have been blood worms not sure, I quit feeding my fish blood worms haven't seen them since.
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    do you ave snails? a long time back i had snails die and as they rotted, some terrible little white worms started to appear, not 100% on if the events were related

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    It is NOT impossible for ottos to breed in captivity, it's just hard to do on purpose. It will be hard to help you without some pics or a video
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    They're a couple mm. They're deffinitely not worms of any kind. I get those tiny white nematodes when I over feed some times. These are definitely fish as they are free swimmers with real directional control. I thought they were too small to take a picture of, but I was able to finally grab some tonight.
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    Otto fry

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    It will be awhile before you can tell lol but I'm kinda leaning toward the ottos
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    awesome, if they survive it will be interesting to see what they are.
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    I've been so busy lately I didn't even think of googleing fry pitures.

    I'm pretty sure they're tiger barb fry.
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    Impossible! Well not really I guess lol. I found another fry! And its in the 45. I put it into my 10g grow out tank that is now up and running. I'm really curious to see what it turns out to be.
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    so so so ????? what is it? lol

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    sperm LOL!Click here to enlarge no that we can see it I would think you are right it prob is a Tiger barb, someone got jiggy in the tank.Click here to enlarge
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    Lol @ sperm

    Those Barb eggs are tough! I got rid of the 3 barbs I had over a week ago and these fry have survived an entire tank swap.

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    what do you feed them when they are that little? I've heard of that green water stuff but don't know anything about it really.
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    I really have no idea. I've heard some fry are more live feeders. I put a couple blood worm fragments in a couple days ago and I've dropped some algae wafer flakes into the grow out tank. I'm just hoping they find something to sustain themselves. I have some stems floating that they might be able to munch on.

    http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/breeding/tigerbarbs.php
    Looks like I need to get some brine shrimp hatching.....
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by thelub Click here to enlarge
    I really have no idea. I've heard some fry are more live feeders. I put a couple blood worm fragments in a couple days ago and I've dropped some algae wafer flakes into the grow out tank. I'm just hoping they find something to sustain themselves. I have some stems floating that they might be able to munch on.

    http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/breeding/tigerbarbs.php
    Looks like I need to get some brine shrimp hatching.....
    either that or you can go to your LFS and get the freeze dried brine shrimp and runn it through a coffee grinder and give them the powder. thats what I do with my mollie and sward tail fri they gobble it up!!!
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    Hmm I have a little bit left from a can of betta food. That should work. I also have some bigger brine shrimp that came in a container for turtle food that might work well if I powder it up. No coffee grinder but I'm sure I can find something that will chop it up good enough.
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    grinder, blender, anyting that will pullvorize it.
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    Sometimes I use a pepper grinder and just grind up any fish food available.
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    Well I wasn't keeping up on the tank good enough and I think all the babies dies. Probably due to not enough filtration and not enough or the right food.. Oh wells, next time I guess.
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    oh well that sucks, I guess next time.
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    I need to get a real sponge for a sponge filter instead of trying to use filter floss. Plus I had an outbreak of some type of fungus in the tank. There was a lot of fuzzy stuff growing.

    I've had nothing but fails in this 10 g tank I got a while ago. I'm starting to wonder if it has something to do with the fact that baby birds were kept in it before.
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    could be not sure. I would think if you gave it a good cleaning that it would be fine.
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    toss them in a floating breeder then u can drop powder in to feed them.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Divinehammer Click here to enlarge
    could be not sure. I would think if you gave it a good cleaning that it would be fine.
    I bleached it twice and rinsed it with a heavy dose of de-chlor each time. I just need to stick with big tanks :P
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    If you get some microworms, you will be ready for next time. They are easier than brine shrimp.
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